PZO: Did you think that you'd be around as a band for as long as you have?
Rory: No <laughs>
Dave: Definitely Not.
Rory: It was never a planned thing. We were in my mom's garage, we were in my mom's living room when we started. So, course not.

PZO: So being in a band wasn't always a dream of yours?
Rory: For me personally, it was never a dream it was kinda like a......
PZO: hobby?
Rory: It was definitely a hobby, but uh....it just kinda turned in to what it is now. I guess it....
Dave: its got its own life force.
Rory: Yea, it's taking an entity in itself and it's become a job and it's become a dream. Sometimes it's the best, sometimes it's the absolute worst. It's kind of one or the other. It's almost never in the middle.
Dave: Yea, but even the low points are still pretty damn good cause' at least you're fortunate to begin with.
Rory: The lowest points are usually walking away with a good story.
<Laughter><They proceed to talk about a "dumpster incident">


PZO: If you could work with anyone in the world, who would it be?
Dave: That's a good question....wow. I'd like to work with Prince.
<Laughter>
Dave: I'd like to work with Prince cause' I heard he was a pain in the ass.
PZO: Really?
Dave: Yea, he's real picky.
Rory: Sharon Osbourne. I think that would be pretty interesting. She's kind of like....they're saying that Ozzy's like the Godfather, but what's she? She's like the lord of something.
Dave: Yea, she makes it happen.

<Nevra's cell phone rings>
Rory: Can we answer the phone?
PZO: [On the phone] Hello? Yea, fine, yea.....you want to talk to one of them, mom?
Dave: No <laughs>
PZO Friend: Talk to mom, talk to mom.
PZO: Just say, "Hi". Be nice. <Hands phone to Rory>
Rory: Hello......we're doing an awesome interview right now, you should be here.
<laughter>
Rory: Uh...Okay.....have a good night.....you too....bye.
Dave: <laughs>
PZO: What did she say?
Rory: Nothing. See your mom's cool. My mom's awesome, she's coming to the San Diego show. We're playing with The Line, Guttermouth, Face to Face and Pennywise. My mom's going to be there. She asked if she could be onstage with Pennywise.
Dave: His mom is great.
Rory: His grandma comes to the shows.
<Laughter>

PZO: Do you ever get tired of playing your old songs? If so, what do you do to make them sound fresh?
Rory: Yea, we get tired of the old songs and we just don't play them when we get tired of them.
Dave: Hopefully, I will remember a lot of them. So we just throw them in. Sometimes we get stuck playing the same thing because of people we won't mention.<laughs> But..
Rory: it doesn't matter.
Dave: We're playing new songs on this tour. It makes it exciting to play....you kind of learn new things about yourself when you play different material. So when you go back and play the old stuff it's fun again. So it never really gets boring.

PZO: What is a common compliment people give you?
Rory: Can it be sarcastic?
PZO: a compliment?
<Rory Laughs>
Rory: You guys are all right.
Dave: You smell good.
Rory: Yea, you smell good.
PZO: umm...really?
Rory: No....What compliments do we get? You're a great driver.
<Dave laughs>
Rory: You guys made it all the way here. No, what compliments do we get? You guys sounded good tonight.
Dave: Nobody's going to tell you that you sucked.
PZO: They just wouldn't say anything.
Rory: Yea, so compliments you get them. We probably sounded good, that's why we have a sound guy, so we sound at least decent. But, you can only do so much.


PZO: How many guitar players has the band gone through? Why?
Rory: I think really like 6 all together, but some of them don't really count. Some guys didn't really record an album with us, some guys did record with us, but never toured or some girls I should say. But someone who did record and tour would count, so maybe like 3, you know?


PZO: What is the worst advice you have ever been given?
Dave: You need to wear ruffles and stretch pants to enhance the visual aspect of a guitar player.
<Laughter>
Dave: Someone said it, I swear to God.
Rory: The worst advice...wow. I could say it, but I'm not going to say it.
Dave: <laughs> That brought back a memory, I bet.
Rory: There's this great band you should go on tour with and you go on tour with them and they're dicks and...
PZO: Has that happened?
Rory: Yea, it sucks.


PZO: Who comes up with the ideas for the album covers?
Rory: Everyone, the band. Every album cover has been different. We try to put some thought into the album title and the album cover, something that just doesn't go away overnight. It's really hard cause' so many great album titles have been taken. If you come up with something that one guy doesn't like, it's like ah shit you can't use it.

PZO: What is the most embarrassing CD in your collection?
Rory: Oh...wow.
Dave: These are good questions, I got to say.
Rory: Yea, these are absolutely very good questions.
<silence>
Rory: My house burned down, I lost 1,200 CD's. So I don't really have any bad ones anymore. The bad ones I do have, I trade away or give away. So I don't have too many bad ones.
PZO: What were the bad ones?
Dave: I got a Poison CD in there somewhere.
Rory: You do?
Dave: Probably. <laughs> Probably, I haven't seen it in awhile, but...
Rory: I'm pretty proud of my CD's. So, I don't really have any bad ones.
Dave: I have a lot of bad ones.

PZO: Are you a closet fan to any band?
Rory: No
Dave: I like Mariah Carey, I'll say it.
Rory: That's bad, that's embarrassing.
PZO Friend: Britney Spears?
<Laughter>
Rory: Britney Spears.....I'm embarrassed.
Dave: Yea, I don't know. I don't mind Mariah Carey. I got it from them, I got the CD on tour.
Rory: I remember when you bought that.

PZO: What do you do to prepare yourself before you go on stage?
Rory: Warm up.
Dave: Stretch
Rory: Stretch. Warm Up.
Dave: Drink a Red Bull.
Rory: Drink a Red Bull.

PZO: What was the worst job you ever had?
Dave: I used to slice meat on one of those like deli slicer things. That was bad, cause' I'd cut my fingers a lot.
Rory: I don't know. I haven't had a bad job, really one that I hated.

PZO: Where is your favorite place to play?
Rory: That's like saying who's your favorite person, there's just so many places...people.
Dave: Yeah, Australia's good to go.
Rory: Australia is really is awesome, Canada is awesome. California is great. Germany's good. England's good.

PZO: Do you ever get sick of songs that are played on the radio all the time?
Rory: Oh yeah
Dave: yeah
Rory: Radio sucks
PZO: What was the last song you got tired of?
Dave: That Staind song.
Rory: No, no Puddle of Mud.
Dave: Oh Yeah, that's bad.
Rory: Fucking morons.
<Dave laughs>
Rory: "I like the way you smack my ass"
<Dave Laughs>
PZO Friend: "10 times a day"
Rory: That is the worst damn song.
Dave: Yea, that's really bad.
Rory: It's embarrassing. It's such a terrible song. Anything by Creed really blows.
<Dave Laughs>
Rory: I'm not afraid to say it.
Dave: Yea, I know, I know.
Rory: And I don't back Bush.
Dave: Individually they are really good musicians, but as a band...
Rory: When the stuff has been done, it's like...everything has been done. Punk rock's been done. Rap's been done.
Dave: All the stuff that's happening now, happened like 10 years ago. People were playing that kind of music and it wasn't happening. People didn't like that kind of music, but they just kept doing it, kept doing it and the record labels get so into it, it's saturated so much. They have to look for anything they can find.

PZO: What keeps you grounded and optimistic?
Rory: Good one. Surfing.
Dave: Friends I guess.
Rory: Yea, friends do that. Friends and family.
Dave: My girlfriend.

PZO: What's the craziest thing that you've seen happen in the audience?
Rory: The audience...oh man. I could tell you pretty much...I mean I've seen girls lift their shirts, whatever. That's nothing. We did a tour with the Offspring, right when they broke and there was 10,000 people at their show and I had never really seen a concert from onstage. I saw so many people get carried out, passed out, broken arms, broken legs. That's the worst thing, I've ever seen. It was brutal, just brutal.

PZO: What is the most ridiculous rumor you've heard about yourselves, if any?
Dave: That we're straight edge.
Rory: I don't know
Dave: There was a rumor going around that I played with Vanilla Ice.
Rory: Wow
Dave: I don't know how that happened. We came back and a bunch of friends we're like I heard you played with Vanilla Ice.
Rory: We did hear this rumor that our bass player wasn't gay.
<Dave Laughs>
Rory: I don't know. I don't know how that one got started.
Dave: I'll clear that up right now.
<Laughter>

PZO: What was the last meaningful thing you did?
Rory: Wow...that's a pretty good one.
Dave: uh...last thing that made me feel really good was I went down to my grandma's and cleaned her garage. Painting, building fences, stuff like that. That felt pretty good.

PZO: Do you have any funny or embarrassing stories of things that happened to you on the road?
Rory: I passed out cold, playing at a show. Passed out, fell over, knocked out.
Dave: I forgot to turn on my amp one time. <laughs>
Rory: took me an hour to recuperate.
Dave: Yea, you knocked your head one time, falling off the stage, remember?
Rory: Oh yea. I fell at the back of the stage.
Dave: That was scary.
Rory: Yea, that was scary.
Dave: I ran back there, he was out cold. The second after we played I was like, "What the hell happened to you?"
Rory: I forgot about that.
Dave: Crazy. You know I went back to that place, this summer and they put rails around it since that...because that happened.
Rory: Wow
Dave: He was all, "I remember you. We put up a rail now, don't fall."

PZO: What question have you been dying to have an interviewer ask you, and could you answer it for us?
Rory: Wow.
<silence>
Rory: Can I give you a million dollars?
Dave: Do you want some....I don't know. That's a damn good question. I have no idea. You stumped me on that one.

PZO: What question comes up in almost every interview, that you are tired of being asked?
Rory: What are your influences. That one sucks.
Dave: Like the basic ones, if they had actually read anything that you did in the past, that they would already know.